Joy Harjo is a Muskogee Creek poet, musician, playwright, and author. She served as the 23rd United States Poet Laureate, the first Native American to hold that honor. Phoebe Mills Farris, Ph.D. (Powhatan-Pamunkey), a Purdue University Professor Emerita, photographer, freelance art critic, and Cultural Survival Quarterly contributing Arts Editor, spoke with Harjo at First Peoples Fund’s We The Peoples Before event on June 30-July 2, 2022, at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C.